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Fire TV Stick 4K Max Review – More Power & Faster WiFi

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This Fire TV Stick 4K Max review was written by Troy after one day of heavy use.


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In this review, I will point out both the pros and cons for this new Amazon streaming device.

Fire TV Stick 4K Max Review

Amazon has released the all-new Fire TV Stick 4K Max that is available now for purchase.

It’s priced at $54.99 which is $5 more than its sister device, the Fire TV Stick 4K.

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This is the latest iteration of the most popular streaming device available on the market today.

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The all-new Fire TV Stick 4K Max features built-in Wi-Fi 6 and improved processing power.

The device is running Fire OS 7 which supports expanding internal storage.  Don’t get too excited about this just yet, there is a big problem that I will get into below.

Users can also expect more memory with 2GB of RAM. (The original Fire TV Stick 4K comes with 1.5 GB of RAM).

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Fire TV Stick 4K Max with Remote

The new Fire TV Stick 4K Max features up to 40% more processing power for a quicker, sleeker experience.

This is because of its new 1.8GHz processor, increased RAM memory, and strong graphics processor. 

One of the most notable features available is support for Wi-Fi 6 that is sure to improve buffering issues and more.  See our speed tests below regarding this new addition.

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Right now, the only other media device with Wi-Fi 6 compatibility is the Apple TV 4K priced at $179.

The Fire TV Stick 4K Max comes equipped with a MediaTek MT7921LS Wi-Fi 6 chipset that is typically seen in laptops and gaming consoles.

This device also features the all-new Alexa Remote with dedicated app buttons for Netflix, Prime Video, and more.

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Fire TV Stick 4K Max Remote

One thing to note about the Fire TV Stick 4K Max is the provided 8 GB of internal storage.

This is the same amount of internal storage that comes with the Fire TV Stick 4K, Fire TV Stick Lite, and other models.

Currently, the only model of Fire TV with more storage is the Fire TV Cube that includes 16 GB of internal storage.

Below, I will take you through my Fire TV Stick 4K Max Review process step-by-step.

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Installing Apps on the Fire TV Stick 4K Max

We know that all apps within the Amazon App store are going to work properly so I’m not going to spend time on those. I’m more interested in seeing how well the side-loaded applications work on this device such as Kodi, Syncler, TiviMate, etc.

I first installed the free TROYPOINT Application with the Rapid App Installer. This is the easiest and fastest way to install the best free streaming apps and tools. I then installed the following applications through the Rapid App Installer inside of the TROYPOINT App.

  • IPVanish VPN
  • TiviMate
  • Syncler
  • Kodi
  • Unlinked
  • Launcher Manager
  • Wolf Launcher
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Again, I really want to test the side-loaded applications that many of you use on a regular basis.

All of the above applications installed properly and they all worked as expected.

Of course, I linked my Real-Debrid Account to Syncler and Kodi so I could enjoy buffer-free playback.

User Interface

After installing the above applications, I noticed some app shortcuts missing which is typical for Fire OS 7.

Missing Shortcuts
Missing Shortcuts

The reason some of these don’t display is because the developers didn’t properly code their shortcuts for the new Fire TV operating system which is Fire OS 7.

You also see this on the Fire TV Stick Lite, 3rd Generation Fire TV Stick, and Fire TV Cubes.

So, I activated Wolf Launcher through the Launcher Manager application and I could now see all applications without ads.

So much better!

Wolf Launcher on Fire TV Stick 4K Max
Wolf Launcher

Fire TV Stick 4K Max Expandable Storage

After setting up Wolf Launcher, I wanted to test the expandable storage that everyone is so excited about.

I unplugged the device from power, connected an OTG adapter, and my UGREEN USB 3.0 Gigabit Ethernet Hub with USB 3.0 Ports. We will get to download speeds with the Gigabit adapter later in the review.

Fire TV Stick 4K Max with OTG Cable and Ethernet Hub
OTG Cable with USB/Gigabit Ethernet Hub

I then inserted a SanDisk 3.0 256 GB USB drive into the hub.

I went into Settings / My Fire TV / USB Drive and I formatted it as expandable storage.

I then went into my applications list as I wanted to move some apps onto the external drive.

As with past Fire TV devices that offer this ability, you can’t move most applications.

Here, you will see that Netflix doesn’t provide a move option as they don’t support this feature. 

Can't Move Apps to External

If the app developer doesn’t declare support for this feature, you can’t move them.

But, if you side-load an application, it should automatically be placed on the external drive.  You should then have the ability to move it to internal storage after that.

But, once it’s on internal storage, you won’t be able to move it back unless that app provides support for moving.    

Below, you will see an example of on app that can be moved, which is Kodi. 

Move app to external storage
Move Button for Kodi

We don’t have this problem on Android TV systems such as the NVIDIA Shield TV Pro because we can force all apps to external storage through developer options.

When we set this option in Android TV, all apps installed from there forward will automatically be placed on the external drive. 

Android TV Expandable Storage
Android TV – Force Apps to External Option

So, this feature is pretty much useless as far as I’m concerned.

I’m sure you can still push apps manually to external through the ADB shell application but I haven’t tried that yet.  And that entire process is less than ideal.

Download Speeds

I used the Analiti Speed test app for the following tests.

I have a one GB Fiber download speed plan through my Internet Service Provider. During the WiFi tests, I am connected to the 5Ghz band on my Asus ROG Rapture WiFi 6 Router (GT-AX11000)

This router resides in the same room as my Fire TV Stick 4K Max (approximately 20 feet away from the wireless router).

I’m using IPVanish VPN as my VPN on Chicago Server 02 (chi-a02).

Fire TV Stick 4K Max Download Speed
Screaming Fast Downloads with WiFi 6

WiFi

VPN On: Download = 162 Mbps & Upload = 93 Mbps

VPN Off: Download = 428 Mbps & Upload = 106 Mbps

Ethernet – via UGREEN Gigabit Adapter

VPN On: Download = 190 Mbps & Upload = 134 Mbps

VPN Off: Download = 301 Mbps & Upload = 129 Mbps

As you will see from the tests above, the new WiFi 6 chip-set makes a pretty big difference in download speeds.

Here’s what I get for wireless download speed with VPN off on original Fire TV Stick 4K.

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Original Fire TV Stick 4K Download Speed

As you can see, I’m getting almost 100 Mbps more speed with the new Firestick Max on my WiFi 6 compatible router. 

It’s important to point out that the Fire TV Stick 4K Max still supports the other typical wireless bands as well (802.11a/b/g/n/ac).

For those of you with WiFi reception problems, this could be the fix you’re looking for.

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Fire TV Stick 4K VS Fire TV Stick 4K Max

The most common question will be, “What’s the difference between Fire TV Stick 4K and Fire TV Stick 4K Max?”

Below are the noticeable features found on the Firestick Max not available on the original 4K system.

  • More powerful processor with the Quad-core 1.8GHz MT8696 (original has 1.7GHz, GPU 650MHz)
  • WiFi 6 support plus traditional bands (original supports all traditional WiFi bands 802.11 b/g/n/ac)
  • 2 GB memory (original has 1.5 GB)
  • More powerful graphics chip with the IMG PowerVR GE9215 750 MHz (original has IMG PowerVR GE8300 650 MHz)
  • Native support via USB OTG (original = unofficial support via USB OTG – some things still work but wasn’t officially supported)
  • Fire OS 7 (original has Fire OS 6)
  • AV1 Video Decoding (original doesn’t have this)
  • Remote control includes buttons for Prime Video, Netflix, Disney+, hulu, and Channel Guide, App Shortcut (original doesn’t have these buttons)
  • Live View Picture-in-Picture for apps that support it

 

Fire TV Stick 4K Max Specs

Fire TV Stick 4K Max Box Contents

  • Size – 99 mm x 30 mm x 14 mm (only housing) | 108 mm x 30 mm x 14 mm (including the connector)
  • Weight – 48.4 g
  • Processor – Quad-core 1.8GHz MT8696
  • GPU – IMG GE9215, 750MHz
  • Storage – 8 GB
  • WiFi – MT7921LS. Supports 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax (Wi-Fi 6) networks.
  • Bluetooth – Bluetooth 5.0 + LE. Pair with compatible Bluetooth speakers, headphones, video game controllers, and more.
  • Voice support – Yes, with the Alexa Voice Remote (included) or free Fire TV app (available for download on Fire OS, Android, and iOS)
  • IR device control with included Alexa Voice Remote – The included Alexa Voice Remote can control Fire TV Stick 4K Max and certain functions (such as power and volume) on a wide range of compatible IR-enabled devices, including TVs, soundbars and A/V receivers. Note: Certain functions may not be available on some IR-enabled devices.
  • Cloud storage – Free cloud storage for digital content purchased from Amazon
  • Ports – HDMI ARC output, micro USB for power only
  • Audio support – Dolby Atmos, 7.1 surround sound, 2-channel stereo, and HDMI audio pass through up to 5.1. Dolby Atmos is available on select Netflix, Prime Video, and Disney+ titles when connected to compatible equipment.
  • 4K Support – To watch movies and TV shows in 4K Ultra HD, you need a compatible Ultra HD TV. All services may not be available in 4K/HDR. Certain services are subject to change at any time, may not be available in all areas, or in 4K/HDR, and may require separate subscriptions. Learn more about services.
  • Content formats supported – Video: Dolby Vision, HDR 10, HDR10+, HLG, H.265, H.264, VP9, AV1 Audio: AAC-LC, AC3, eAC3 (Dolby Digital Plus), FLAC, MP3, PCM/Wave, Vorbis, Dolby Atmos (EC3_JOC), Photo: JPEG, PNG, GIF, BMP
  • Output resolution supported – 2160p, 1080p and 720p up to 60 fps
  • System requirements – High-definition television with available high-speed HDMI input, high-speed internet connection via Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi 6 router needed for Wi-Fi 6 support. Auto-Low Latency Mode is included in the HDMI 2.1 standard.
  • TV compatibility – TV must support minimum HDCP requirements for protected content playback. Compatible with 1) 4K UHD TVs with HDMI capable of 2160p at 24/25/30/50/60 Hz and HDCP 2.2 or 2) high-definition TVs with HDMI capable of 1080p or 720p at 50/60 Hz. Learn more about high-definition.
  • Warranty and service – 1-year limited warranty and service included. Optional 2-year and 3-year extended warranty available for U.S. customers sold separately. Use of Fire TV is subject to the terms found here.
  • Content availability – Certain apps and services are subject to change or withdrawal at any time, may not be available in all areas and languages, and may require separate subscriptions.
  • Accessibility features – VoiceView screen reader enables access to the vast majority of Fire TV features for users who are blind or visually impaired. Watch videos and TV shows with closed captioning displayed. Captions are not available for all content. You can also listen to Fire TV with compatible Bluetooth headphones. Learn more about compatibility.
  • Included in the box – Fire TV Stick 4K Max, Alexa Voice Remote (3rd Gen), USB cable and power adapter, HDMI extender cable for Fire TV Stick 4K Max, 2 AAA batteries, Quick Start Guide
  • Software Security Updates – This device receives guaranteed software security updates until at least four years after the device is last available for purchase as a new unit on our websites. Learn more about these software security updates. If you already own a Fire TV, visit Manage Your Content and Devices for information specific to your device.

Fire TV Stick 4K Max Specs

Pros

  • 40% more powerful than original 4K device, which creates fast transitions between screens and menus
  • 2 GB of RAM memory
  • Excellent 4K playback
  • Supports WiFi 6 – screaming fast WiFi speeds when connected to a WiFi 6 compatible router
  • Supports all popular and newer formats including 4K Ultra HD, Dolby Vision, HDR, HDR10+, Dolby Atmos Audio, AV1
  • Side-loading works
  • OTG cable works
  • Gigabit Ethernet Adapter works
  • Wolf Launcher works
  • Excellent remote control

Cons

  • Only 8 GB internal storage
  • Expanding internal storage is useless
  • Bad user interface with too many ads for services never used

My Final Thoughts

The new Fire TV Stick 4K Max brings some nice updates.

Would I suggest trading in your original Fire TV Stick 4K for the Fire TV Stick 4K Max?  Probably not.

The only reason why you might want to do this is to take advantage of WiFi 6 if you have a compatible router and you currently have problems with getting a strong wireless connection.

If you are new to this, you will definitely want to spend the extra money and purchase the Firestick Max.  Yes, the other Firesticks are less expensive but this will be more future-proof as it’s more powerful and supports upcoming technology such as WiFi 6 and AV1 decoding. 

Fire OS 7 gives us the opportunity to expand internal storage with an external USB drive but it doesn’t do much for us because most apps don’t support it.

Maybe Amazon will address this and provide us with a setting under Developer Options like previously mentioned above. 

Personally, the storage thing isn’t a huge issue for me because I only use 5 applications on a regular basis.

If you use a lot of different applications, I suggest moving over to an Android TV device that does a good job of supporting expanding internal storage such as the NVIDIA Shield TV Pro.

Or, if you only use side-loaded apps and an unverified IPTV service, I would strongly suggest taking a look at the BuzzTV XRS 4900.

All-in-all, the Fire TV Stick 4K Max is a powerful and affordable streaming device that will provide most people with everything that they need.

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5 thoughts on “Fire TV Stick 4K Max Review – More Power & Faster WiFi”

  1. It’s JUNK! If you need a fire stick, plain Ol’ 4K is good! Amazon took it…talked….said, look at these buttons….re-polished the same turd, charged more, and said…Alexa…can you hear me now!?

    Disappointing!

  2. I used Mixplorer to install apps to external drive. Install apps to internal as normal, then copy apk files from internal app folder to external drive. Uninstall apps from internal memory and then reinstall from apk files on external drive. Apps will then be installed on external drive.

    Be sure to enable OTG support in Mixplorer.

  3. I have 5 of the 4K Sticks, 4 with expanded storage & have DeBloated all of them, I was 1 of the primary contributors to the process.
    Ethernet connected so the wifi capability offers nothing. There is however a substantial difference in Android 7.
    Not a Kodi proponent as I have Prime. HBO Max plus an assortment of legal apps which supply movie requirements. I do use 1 app to watch TV series on demand.
    My “Go To” is a 2017 NVidia Shield, may upgrade to next version in 2022 ?
    Using IPVanish I achieve 500MB/s routinely where the Sticks are less low to mid 100’s.
    Until Sticks feature 16g internal & 3g Cache, they will be toys & not serious streaming devices.

    1. Pushing tech to the max.

      As soon as you said, “Not a Kodi proponent as I have Prime. HBO Max plus an assortment of legal apps which supply movie requirements.” I switched off to your opinion as this usage of a Fire Sick is not aimed at the likes of you. Also your use of made up metrics like 16g and 3g severely reduces your credibility.

  4. Great Review , Troy.!
    Last August, 2020, on the Amazon Prime Day, I got the FireTvCube for $70.
    Now,, that’s Only $16 dollars more, than the 4K Max sells for at $54.
    Now,, you get 16 Gigs of Internal Storage, ending with 13 Gigs, on the FireTvCube,
    and I have 9.7 Gigs Remaining. Including with the KODI Memory HOG.
    Why is this important.?
    Well,,Any Amazon Technician , will tell you,, that if you get below .5 Gig on a FireTv Device,
    that , it will Freeze up on you. And You Will Not EVER be able to reboot it.
    That happened to me on a 2nd Generation 4k Stick, and Amazon Technical Support told me,
    that i had to throw into the Garbage, and buy another one.

    1. You really love commas, don’t you? And using 2 punctuation marks one after the other makes it painful to read your comments and even less likely you believe you.

    1. I ordered mine from Amazon and when I plugged it in on arrival it simply migrated all of my previous stick’s apps for me automatically. 1 or 2 failed to migrate but other then that it was seamless.

  5. Have to say – got my 4K MAX on Friday – spent today setting it up – absolutely love it – it’s head and shoulders better than the 4K – much smoother playback quicker navigation – to paraphrase that fast food chain … I’m Lovin’ it!

  6. Troy I have to agree with the report Firestick 4k Max, it does not seem it worth the price to purchase vs the 4k unless like you say you looking for better wifi 6 support. My whole taught is if you’re going to improve something you need improve all parts of the device and not some parts. Hope fully maybe down the road it might happen but having the 4k and using it with the proper installation and apps you using will do for now. I have the Google Chromecast and it work great the only problem it like to say sometime you are not connected to WiFi but that about it.

  7. I received my new Firestick Max yesterday evening and set it up. It does appear to be a little faster than my Nvidia Pro. A whole lot less storage. The main reason I got this stick was to see about the WIFI 6. I recently signed on with T-Mobile internet and this modem/router selling point was the WIFI 6. I get excellent speeds but I can’t tell if I’m getting 6.
    I traded some older streamers in so I got this stick free. No loss even if there’s no gain.

    1. How is the T-Mobile internet working for you? I have Fios and they did increase the price once my promotion expired. I managed to talk them down on the price because I compared the T-Mobile price to theirs. As of today T-Mobile internet is not available in my area yet.

  8. I ordered a Mecool when there was a promotion and it took almost 2 months to get here from China.
    Would like to order this new Firestick 4K but don’t want to wait 2 months for it. I’ll buy it at Best Buy instead.

  9. I agree, Richard. I also have the original 4K stick alone. No other devices to help it along. Never had a buffering problem, not on the east coast of FL nor on the west coast where I’ve recently moved…

    1. Timothy A Counsil

      I noticed on the new firestick max when trying to clear the cache, when you scroll back up to the app cache you just cleared, it shows the cache not cleared. I went threw all my applications and cleared the cache, when I went back threw again, it’s still showing the cache not cleared. This never happened on the firestick 4k. I went through all my applications again and cleared all the data in each app, and it still shows the cache not cleared. Not to mention you have to sign back into each app sibce I cleared all the data in each app. Also you have to enter a code to get the apps working again. I did notice the firestick max is much quicker.

  10. Troy reviewed the Mecool KM2 awhile back, best streaming box I have and for the price I’d take over the any amazon firestick. and it is free of bloatware. I have no lag with my standard wifi 5g.

  11. Another vote for the Shield Pro and be done! I’ve had the FireStick 4K and the FireCube and then finally got the Shield. Could have saved myself a lot and just got the best from the beginning. The Firestick is ok if your on a budget and don’t care about small storage.

  12. I have to wait for the device to come out, followed by the reviews. It doesn’t seem like a big improvement, and I don’t know if I need to spend the money.

    1. Troy did a positive review on a cheap Dynalink android tv device from Walmart about a year ago. What the hell I thought so I ordered one. I still have the FS Cube and Sticks on other tvs but the Dynalink is my goto device now. It has a much better wifi processer as I get speeds with VPN of 60 mps while with same setup, my Cube only gets 25. That alone makes it a winner. It seems to buffer less than the Fire products too, but occasionally you still have to go to the tricks: restart device, clear cache, restart modem, ect. But not often.

  13. I have 4 firestick 4k’s one of which has expanded storage. It took considerable effort to get the additional storage set up.
    Is there a way to clone the setup of the 4k to the 4k max in order to avoid all that hazzle with the set up of the additional storage.

    1. My question is that if you expand the storage, where does any recordings go? Internal storage or external storage?

      1. You can point the individual application that is downloading or storing to the directory that you want to use on either fire stick.
        It may be slightly less confusing with the 4k max because the path names may be garble when pointing to them but once you get the hang of it you just know which is USB and which is local.
        I have my downloads all save to my external USB so I don’t have to transfer off the small space of the fire stick.
        My opinion is this is a better option if you plan to unplug the usb drive to transfer or view on another device because it will not require being setup again when you plug it back in. Just be sure you keep the stick off during the time the stick is removed and that the new device doesn’t rename it on install.
        The best part of android is that it is so simple that a very basic knowledge of navigating files directories can make it do far more than originally limited to do.
        Even someone that has no knowledge of android or file paths can pick it up with trial and error or watching one of the million videos out on how to.
        My only reason to upgrade would be slow connection speed and having a compatible wifi6 router.
        If I had multiple subscriptions to any of the services on the bottom buttons, it will be easier for accessing them. (Slightly)
        Really, with the option to speak into the remote and tell it to open this tv show on the program, there is nothing easier needed.
        So, I hope WiFi 6 is worth it.

  14. You say that the new fire tv max will
    Have 8gigs of storage. You say that is the same as the fire tv 4K. I have the 4K fire stick and the internal storage shows the max storage is 5.2 gigs. We have never had 8gigs. Is there something wrong with my fire tv 4K stick?

    1. Hi Jerry… yes, it has 8 Gigs TOTAL, minus the OS, and related apps to make the device usable. Your 5.2 is what’s left over as what’s available for your use. It’s always been like this. The vendor quotes total storage in ads but that’s not all for you to use. There is a way to greatly increase your usable storage by adding an inexpensive devise with a special cable, Troypoint has all the reliable information on how to do that an it’s relatively inexpensive…

      1. i tried to add storage and my scandisk 3.0 256 GB thumbdrive wont format to FAT 32 , only the ek-fat and the NTSF format. what am I doing wrong?

    2. What is the storage capacity. If it is tbe same as the 4K, then the only advantage is a faster processing speed. I use VIDSTIX which is the same size as the Amazon 4K, but has 4 MB of Ram and 128 GB of storage.

      1. I’m not upgrading to the FS Max I think I’ll wait and see what devices come in the next 12-18 months but I am a prime member and that’s the only reason I still have a FS 4K
        I’ve reset my FS 4K twice now and reinstalled kodi twice, and reformated my additional storage it doesn’t take long and it seems to help everything run faster for awhile so I’m sticking with what I have for awhile until something better either from Amazon or another fast decent storage low cost streaming device comes along and I dump prime.

    3. Hi Jeri,
      8 GB is the estimate for storage space prior to any application or Firmware/OS load.
      What you are seeing is most likely, available space that will be reduced based on the size of the Android OS, any additional applications installed and anything that was downloaded that is remaining on that device.
      You can find residual files from installs that may be removed but I would not count on seeing more that 5.5 gigs availing on any 8 gig device that has Android (Fire OS) and any applications loaded onto it.
      My recommendation is always buy a fire stick 4k or 4k max for the speed, an OTG cable that allows for a USB port and a 128 mb thumb drive that will need to be formatted to a FAT32 system (look on the web).
      This may seem like a lot and maybe it is compared to the basic setup of any fire stick but it is very simple to do and you are add 20x the amount of storage space to a device that is already great in every other aspect.
      I walked my mother through it using video chat on our cell phones and that is saying a lot.
      Best wishes and enjoy.

  15. I wonder if the increased RAM will mitigate the re-populating which is very annoying. If it had more SSD I would buy it. No need for 4K anyway yet.

  16. I sold all my fire crap and went with the nvidia tv pro….the nay sayers repreat that they dont play games so why buy. Get a clue buy once and not again. The device rearly buffers I do not need to upgrade every year as the new release of the junk stick comes out. I do not use wifi but ethernet I wired myself. In my opinoion (just like a nose everyone has one) if you stream buy the best you can right from the first and save you money in the long run.

    1. I did one better. Got rid of all Android devices period. I bought a Beelink GKmini Amazon has them now marked down from $270 and after an additional code it cost me just under $200. I didnt buy it as a home PC but solely as a streaming device. I run Kodi and nothing else but I’ve been streaming 4k for over 9 hours now and not one hick up, glitch, buffer or annoying adds for shit I’ll never use. It is sooo nice having that giant pain in the ass android crap out of my life for good.
      I also went with the Shield Pro for a few months and you are correct. Worlds apart from Firestick garbage. But still a messy pile of gargled un intuitive menus and layout.

    1. I love my Shield, it was well worth the money. I also use hard wire ethernet vs wifi. It works great with ipvanish and real debrid as well

    1. I have ordered the new 4k Max . I will be using it as is and not jailbreaking it. I’m tired of links and apps not working.. I will be getting Netflix to watch TV shows and movies. I appreciate all the help you have given me in the past.

      1. Nothing wrong with side loading. My side loaded app/service works perfectly. As far as links/apps not working, well, I guess you get what you pay for.

  17. No not worth me getting an oil there device my 4k stick does just fine with me. If it had more memory ir something like that maybe, I have a Netgear Orbi. I very rarely have any buffering issues.

  18. will this stick allow volume control when using bluetooth hearing devices.

    Not able to get volume control on current firestick (newly purchased this year) when using bluetooth

  19. No more storage is a bummer. Thumbs down. They do listen to their customer base and then just choose to ignore. No more storage no chance of me buying this junk. Geared to make you buy prime Netflix etc. Thumbs down ?

  20. No way. Will not buy anymore until they include either micro sd card storage OR 12-16 GB storage. I have 9 4k’s. Speed is not an issue. When will Amazon wakeup?

  21. I won’t be getting the new 4K Max. I have about 6 apps loaded now on my current 4K stick and it works fine. If Amazon had added more storage, then I would have purchased it. In fact, I plan to buy another 4K stick.

      1. Because the $5 price difference is not correct. The Firestick 4k is $35 and the 4k Max is $55. That’s a $20 difference. In fact with those $20 you can get an ethernet hub with USB slot and a free 128gb USB from microcenter and suddenly you have a 4k with 128gb of memory compared to a pointless 4k Max which does not address any of the 4k’s shortcomings. If anything, the only reason to ever get a 4k Max is on Black Friday assuming it goes under $35.

        1. Michael, yes it is correct. What we are implying is the original cost, not the sale price. The 4K sold for $49.99 when it first came out for a very long time. Sure, there were sales now and then. We are trying to get across the point that this is only $5 more than the ‘original price’ of the 4K stick.

  22. Wonder if this will have support for “Play Protect certified”, “protected path” playback of DRM material? I need that for my HDhomerun Prime cable card tuner. Also wonder if supports AC-4 audio, which is needed for playback of ATSC 3.0 broadcast signals? Right now I am waiting to see if the Formuler z10 max has these new features, and also want to be able to expand both internal and external storage memory for recording shows.

    1. I am still having problems adding memory did everything it said got the splitter cable got the flashdrive. Hooked it all up and fire stick just kept restarting so I unplugged from wall plug adapter and plugged usb end to USB of surge protector and that got it to startup but then it still isn’t recognizing the flash drive or hd does anyone have any ideas

      1. Are you using ADB Shell? Troypoint has a very simple tutorial on youtube. Named : How to increase storage on a firestick posted up Feb 14 2020.

      2. I got it to work, great, got the apps copied over, taught myself how to transfer apps like Disney+ and others…then once there is an app update, half of them wouldn’t update because it said there’s no storage space. Wound up having to uninstall the apps and reinstall them on directly on the stick. So, while its a great idea, I have a 128 gb flash drive connected to my stick that doesn’t have very many apps on it after all is said and done.

  23. I just traded in my 4K stick in. Got $20 off and a $8 gift card. Now I’m wondering…should I “un-jailbreak” the stick I’m trading in to Amazon? Will they care? Wondering what they do with the traded in sticks?

    1. Just deregister your stick if you sent back already online on Amazon.Factory reset if you still have.They sell them refurbished.And if yours gets to somebody who purchased and they didnt for whatever reason refurbish somebody could have access to your account.I would wait till you get new one in case it’s glitchy before sending back old one.Wi-fi 6 would only be good for me.Also wish Amazon put Netflix type buttons at top.My Roku remote i occasionally hit by accident.I did trade-in on the HD 10 tablet and sent it back.Glad i didn’t send them my old one not worth it.Get new stick when its $25.I have old fire tv box W/game controller.Contoller no good on other sticks or box.Luna probably the same.Also get Ip Vanish your cable company will cancel you when you watch that Sony new Movie.Look at cable company policy.Its there on Cox you have to find it.Cinema has worked for me for 2+ years without a glitch.If your old stick works good give it to a friend.Maybe that pays big bucks on cable.Hope I’ve helped in some way.Happy streaming.

  24. Does it still have the 100mpb limit on the internet? That alone is a deal breaker. Combine that with flimsy storage options…. I’ll build anew Android box. ?

  25. Honestly, how much definition is enough. I’m all for advancing technology if only for technology’s sake but 4K, while impressive, seems overkill to me. Besides, I stream exclusively from Cinema and my own Plex server which I won’t waste storage on 4K vids anyway. Internal and expandable external storage is nice. But I have my own home server (pc with 8T of SSD). Why not download direct to the server? I currently have both the FS4K and FSLite. The 4K is nice simply for the remote TV/sound bar control. Otherwise the Lite is fine. WiFi 6 is some time off and I’m not sure it’s real benefits anyway unless you’re streaming true 4K and where else might that be other than your cable provider. Which, who on here is still connected?

    I run my server, 5 phones, 2 tablets, 2 fire sticks, and a TiVo stick, with 3 TV’s also connected. I never have any buffering or lag or connection problems of any sort in my 2 story fully insulated house, or my 1/2 acre property using Nest.

    This FS4kMax seems more of a gimmick at this point.

  26. My current one is perfectly fine. Question: Will we still need to purchase a subscription to a Debrid account with this one?

  27. I wonder if the shortcuts can be remapped???
    I have no use for Hulu or Disney, but would love to assign those buttons to my favorite 2 apps.

    I bought the TiVo one to get a power button, volume, & input buttons. Netflix button was a nice bonus,and do was a numbers pad.
    This doesn’t do enough more, or do it enough better, to cause me to repurchase.
    More memory might have been enough.

  28. Why wait all this time for a new release and not add more internal storage ? Do they not listen to customers ? Not worth the switch .

    1. Yes, Amazon does listen to their customers. The fact lies that the vast majority of their customers do not use their Fire devices like many of the people here do. Amazon bases needs on reviewing stats bases on people purchasing and viewing much of their own content. At that point there is little need for additional internal storage, USB3, or gigabit ethernet. It is a great device for the price. But for most users who want to stretch content into the illegal realm, it is best to have a more flexible device with multiple ports, expandable memory options, keyboard access. This is where devices such as the Nvidea Shield shines. Why complain if a Chevy Malibu cannot perform like a Corvette? You get what you pay for.

  29. Disappointing. Get rid of the silly app buttons and include 16gb memory. I definitely won’t be upgrading tho this-maybe the next stick will be worth it.

  30. Really disappointed they couldn’t figure out a way to have more storage space for this new Fire Stick. The other enhancements are nice, but when you run out of space, you run out of space and you can rig it to have more space, but at this point, I am done with Fire Sticks in general. I think I will either go with the Nvidia Shield Pro or just move to Android TV boxes around the house.

      1. I’ve been through most boxes and sticks in my time, and still use FS 4K on a couple of TVs, but I always go to the Shield for reliability (low-end model, notwithstanding). FS is no comparison, IMO.

  31. NotUpgrading4KJustYet

    I can wait for the next version of the 4k stick with more storage space not sure why Amazon would release this version with the same 8GB as the original 4k. If you’re not having any issues with buffering or streaming then why upgrade to the new version other than wanting the new wifi6 capability and the 1.8Ghz processor. I’m still very happy with the original 4k (still no issues since it was first released in 2008). Can’t wait for the troypoint review and comparison between the 4k sticks.

  32. Excited about the increase RAM and faster processing power but, I will not be purchasing the new Fire TV Stick 4k Max. Disappointed with no increase in internal storage.

  33. I preorder this stick this morning. Was very happy with firestick 4k but this one has more capabilities. $74.99 in Canada no trade in but worth the price I hope.

    1. Good luck. I ordered a Mecool box from here and took 7 weeks to get here….all these things come from Mainland China and shipped here by a rowboat, I think.

      Happy waiting.

  34. I preordered this stick this morning. With a firestick trade in and an Apple trade in it will cost me nothing. I have an older Apple 4K and a brand new one, so one was sitting. Amazon offered me about $6 more than anyone else for it. Firesticks all over the place but I use the cube.
    I recently took the T-Mobile 5G internet, which is supposed to have wifi 6, but without any receiver for it, I don’t know if I’m getting it. I’ll be able to see after the early part of Oct.
    My main streamer is the Shield, but it’s getting old and rickety. I’m hoping this Fire will be a good replacement. I like my Apple but their iptv players suck.

      1. That’s exactly what I’m going to do. My 2019 Shield keeps losing the ability to update the guide on both Tivimate and Smarters, for no apparent reason. It comes and goes, and I have chased the problem for weeks, going everywhere from the Shield forums to their Reddit. I’ve gotten lots of suggestions, but none of them have worked. I’m tired of messing with it. I’ll buy this Firestick and dump the POS Shield on eBay.

        for the record, I also have a 2019 Shield Pro in my living room, and it has been flawless. It’s the tube model that sucks.

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